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Post by seaver41 on Nov 13, 2007 14:24:35 GMT -5
Because he's really not the best SS in the league.
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Nov 13, 2007 15:11:44 GMT -5
no kidding
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Post by kingcole35 on Nov 13, 2007 20:14:27 GMT -5
Rollins Defensively:
.985 FP
11 E's in 162 games
Ramirez:
.963
24 E's in 151
and don't give any excuses like i've seen here like oh well he had so and so at first base saving alot of his errors... Ryan Howard has brick hands.
As for offense Rollins might be a bit off of Ramirez but, He doesn't set the plate nearly as well as rollins does with TIMELY hitting , providing a spark to lift the whole team. Rollins is a stud defensively, offensively and emotionally for the Phils. I would take him over Ramirez in a second and said would most of the managers in the league. Oh one thing he doesn't do well is dance when he hits a single like some shortstops in the division. Maybe you meant he wasn't the best dancer?
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Post by lighteningrod on Nov 13, 2007 20:52:43 GMT -5
Defensively, Troy Tulowitzki is better. Offensively, Hanley Ramirez is better. Counting both, Reyes is better because of his youth. Rollins' offensive stats are inflated from that bandbox.
Reyes doesn't dance every time he gets a single. He claps his hands and when he scores or a teammate scores, he does a handshake with them. I wouldn't try using that as part of your argument. It just makes your position more pathetic by having to resort to something so petty.
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Post by kingcole35 on Nov 13, 2007 21:59:17 GMT -5
So throw Reyes in the top just because of his age rather then look at the total package of skills? Sounds like just another deluded mutts fan.
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Post by diehardmetsfan on Nov 14, 2007 15:24:33 GMT -5
reyes has the total package of skills...
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Post by diehardmetsfan on Nov 14, 2007 15:25:26 GMT -5
i'll make a bold prediction right now, and troll, u can copy and paste this in ur sig...
reyes in 2008
.310 BA
.390 OBP
90 SB's
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Post by seaver41 on Nov 14, 2007 20:53:45 GMT -5
So throw Reyes in the top just because of his age rather then look at the total package of skills? Sounds like just another deluded mutts fan. I'm not. Ask most people (not here since everyone hates the Mets here). More would choose Reyes than Rollins. Just accept it, Jimmy Rollins is overrated. Once he was the most underrated SS in baseball. Now he's Andruw Jones. |
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Post by Josh on Nov 14, 2007 21:08:43 GMT -5
So throw Reyes in the top just because of his age rather then look at the total package of skills? Sounds like just another deluded mutts fan. I'm not. Ask most people (not here since everyone hates the Mets here). More would choose Reyes than Rollins. Just accept it, Jimmy Rollins is overrated. Once he was the most underrated SS in baseball. Now he's Andruw Jones. There's a huge difference. The only thing Jones is good at is hitting 89 mph fastballs 500 ft. Besides that he's worthless, even at CF.. check his range and all of those special stats.. Jimmy Rollins is in the middle of his prime. He's a top five defensive and offensive shortstop in the NL, maybe even in all of the major leagues. |
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Post by seaver41 on Nov 14, 2007 23:16:02 GMT -5
He's overrated now like Jones has been for years. He's not the best offensive SS in the league, he's not the best defensive SS in the league and he's not even the best overall SS in the league.
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Post by diehardmetsfan on Nov 15, 2007 15:36:34 GMT -5
I'm not. Ask most people (not here since everyone hates the Mets here). More would choose Reyes than Rollins. Just accept it, Jimmy Rollins is overrated. Once he was the most underrated SS in baseball. Now he's Andruw Jones. There's a huge difference. The only thing Jones is good at is hitting 89 mph fastballs 500 ft. Besides that he's worthless, even at CF.. check his range and all of those special stats.. Jimmy Rollins is in the middle of his prime. He's a top five defensive and offensive shortstop in the NL, maybe even in all of the major leagues. jimmy rollins is in his prime, but reyes and ramirez are still better than him |
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Post by diehardmetsfan on Nov 15, 2007 15:37:07 GMT -5
I'm not. Ask most people (not here since everyone hates the Mets here). More would choose Reyes than Rollins. Just accept it, Jimmy Rollins is overrated. Once he was the most underrated SS in baseball. Now he's Andruw Jones. There's a huge difference. The only thing Jones is good at is hitting 89 mph fastballs 500 ft. Besides that he's worthless, even at CF.. check his range and all of those special stats.. Jimmy Rollins is in the middle of his prime. He's a top five defensive and offensive shortstop in the NL, maybe even in all of the major leagues. and also, jones is still 1 of the better defensive CF's in the league... |
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Post by Josh on Nov 16, 2007 21:20:15 GMT -5
There's a huge difference. The only thing Jones is good at is hitting 89 mph fastballs 500 ft. Besides that he's worthless, even at CF.. check his range and all of those special stats.. Jimmy Rollins is in the middle of his prime. He's a top five defensive and offensive shortstop in the NL, maybe even in all of the major leagues. and also, jones is still 1 of the better defensive CF's in the league... No he's not. He's gotten real slow and has much less range. |
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Post by diehardmetsfan on Nov 16, 2007 22:57:13 GMT -5
and also, jones is still 1 of the better defensive CF's in the league... No he's not. He's gotten real slow and has much less range. i dont think thats true at all |
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Post by Fish Troll on Nov 17, 2007 18:32:53 GMT -5
He lost some steps but he is still a good outfielder. Just not the legend that he used to be.
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