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Post by yankeeswonseries on Apr 8, 2009 15:48:39 GMT -5
I hate to do this with predictions, but how are the Red Sox fourth? That's ridiculous. And out of curiosity, what do you like on Houston's team this year. I'm still looking for something they do well besides having a great hitter and a great pitcher Sox have too many old players who don't get it done anymore, and I don't like them in general. Astros have a lineup in a fairly easy division. |
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Post by chisox100 on Apr 8, 2009 21:30:23 GMT -5
I hate to do this with predictions, but how are the Red Sox fourth? That's ridiculous. And out of curiosity, what do you like on Houston's team this year. I'm still looking for something they do well besides having a great hitter and a great pitcher Sox have too many old players who don't get it done anymore, and I don't like them in general. Astros have a lineup in a fairly easy division. Red Sox have Pedroia, Youkolous, Ellsbury, Lester, Dice-K and Papelbon. The core of the team is young. |
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Post by yankeeswonseries on Apr 9, 2009 13:49:34 GMT -5
Sox have too many old players who don't get it done anymore, and I don't like them in general. Astros have a lineup in a fairly easy division. Red Sox have Pedroia, Youkolous, Ellsbury, Lester, Dice-K and Papelbon. The core of the team is young. Too bad out of that list only Youk and Pedroia are good... |
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 9, 2009 19:52:04 GMT -5
Let's see how badly the Sox do. I think most people know that with that pitching depth and that their offense isn't that bad as of now (and they can easily add a stick in July with that depth), they'll be fine
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 9, 2009 22:00:16 GMT -5
Red Sox have Pedroia, Youkolous, Ellsbury, Lester, Dice-K and Papelbon. The core of the team is young. Too bad out of that list only Youk and Pedroia are good... The only bat the Yankees have now is Teixeira. |
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Post by yankeeswonseries on Apr 10, 2009 6:07:42 GMT -5
Too bad out of that list only Youk and Pedroia are good... The only bat the Yankees have now is Teixeira. That made me lol. Jeter, Posada, Matsui(when healthy), and Damon are pretty good hitters. Brett Gardner has been looking good, and Nick Swisher is around average and just had a great game. Texiera has been doing not that great compared to those names. Out of the names he listed Pedroia and Youk are both very good hitters. Ellsbury blows. Dice-K is very mediocre. Lester and Papelbon are okay. |
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 10, 2009 12:54:37 GMT -5
Ellsbury is better than Brett Gardner. Jeter is past his prime and should not be hitting lead off. Matsui is never going to be 100% healthy. Even if he is, he's not a major threat. Same goes for Posada. Damon is out place hitting 2nd and is not going to be as good as last year.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 10, 2009 14:40:15 GMT -5
This reeks of homerism. Ya, Lester is just OK, and if you give everyone on the Yankees credit, how you can only give Youk and Pedroi credit is befuddling. You can't write off Ortiz and Lowell because they're old, and what about Jason Bay?
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 10, 2009 15:50:58 GMT -5
Jeter, Damon, Matsui, and Posada are all 35-37. Other than Lowell (35) and Varitek (37), none of the Red Sox' position players are over 33. And other than Ortiz and Drew, no one is older than 30 (Youk and Bay). The idea that the Red Sox are an old team is a myth.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 10, 2009 15:59:22 GMT -5
Even if they are old at some spots, at Boston is dependable in getting on-base, a skill that lasts much longer than power
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 10, 2009 16:24:26 GMT -5
They also have a lot of young talent waiting in the wings. They can plug the holes much easier than the Yankees can if they lose someone to injury.
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Post by yankeeswonseries on Apr 11, 2009 7:37:15 GMT -5
Ellsbury and Gardner are not the same, time will tell who is better. Ortiz and Lowell both aren't that great. I'd take Lowell over Ortiz. Varitek sucks and everyone knows it. Bay is good, but I would call him a huge downgrade over Manny. JD sucks bad. Youk and Pedroia are pretty good, and they have no decent SS. Only thing they have going for them pitching is Beckett, Okajima, and that Ramirez kid(or whatever his name is). Doesn't matter if you have depth when someone goes down, there is still plenty FA replacements right now.
Yankees have Damon who is decent. I already talked about Gardner. Nady is alittle below average. Then we have a stellar 1B and 3B along with a decent player and good leader at SS. At 2B we have Robbie Cano who when hot, really gets it done. Jorge is also a decent catcher but is getting up there in age and might not be able to catch much longer. Pitching wise we have three legitamite #1 pitchers, along with a decent veteran and a young stud in Joba. Our bullpen is alittle shakier but we still have Mariano who is undeniably still good, and Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez are shaping up to be decent.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 11, 2009 11:50:37 GMT -5
you really just described both lineups as close to the same (Drew, by the way, doesn't suck at all. In fact, he's worth close to the amount of wins bay is. compared to his salary he might suck, but he's a fine player). The difference is that Boston has depth at various positions while the Yankees don't. We don't know what will happen with A-rod, and Posada should get injured at some point. Jeter, Nady, and Damon are due to regress
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 11, 2009 11:55:23 GMT -5
Ellsbury and Gardner are not the same, time will tell who is better. Ortiz and Lowell both aren't that great. I'd take Lowell over Ortiz. Varitek sucks and everyone knows it. Bay is good, but I would call him a huge downgrade over Manny. JD sucks bad. Youk and Pedroia are pretty good, and they have no decent SS. Only thing they have going for them pitching is Beckett, Okajima, and that Ramirez kid(or whatever his name is). Doesn't matter if you have depth when someone goes down, there is still plenty FA replacements right now. Yankees have Damon who is decent. I already talked about Gardner. Nady is alittle below average. Then we have a stellar 1B and 3B along with a decent player and good leader at SS. At 2B we have Robbie Cano who when hot, really gets it done. Jorge is also a decent catcher but is getting up there in age and might not be able to catch much longer. Pitching wise we have three legitamite #1 pitchers, along with a decent veteran and a young stud in Joba. Our bullpen is alittle shakier but we still have Mariano who is undeniably still good, and Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez are shaping up to be decent. Ellsbury is better than Gardner. Bay is obviously a downgrade because only Albert Pujols is better than him. They have more going for them in pitching than those 3. Lowrie is a good, upcoming SS. Besides, the Yankees don't have a good SS either. Until Cano can learn to draw walks consistently, he is average at best. The Yankees' rotation is overrated. CC has never had an ERA under 3 in his career in the AL. Wang is NOT an ace. Burnett WILL be injured; I wouldn't consider him an ace either since I doubt he can handle the pressure. Joba they are going to wreck with reliever-starter-reliever-starter shifts they keep doing. Rivera is good but not unhittable anymore. |
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Post by Josh on Apr 13, 2009 11:18:55 GMT -5
Ok, lets get this straight, both teams have very good line ups. Not like they used to have(Ortiz/Manny in Boston and Sheff/Arod in NYY) but their still pretty damn good.
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