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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Apr 14, 2007 9:37:26 GMT -5
and the ball that went over Beltrans head had nothing to do with NL losing? god you new yorkers are f***ing hypocrites. im not defending seaver, im defending beltran...that wasnt beltran's fault, it was hit over his head...don't rip on beltran because he is a gold glove fielder and has the best range in center besides andruw jones that was a line drive that went passed him, not a fly ball, seaver is making crap up again |
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 14, 2007 10:57:18 GMT -5
I said Cabrera doesn't go after fly balls in general. I know it was a line drive in ASG and he should have been able to stop it.
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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 14, 2007 12:19:37 GMT -5
Who gives a sh*t about the All-Star game? That game is a joke.
Oh no, Miguel Cabrera missed ONE grounder... Oh no, Carlos Beltran missed ONE fly ball... They suck now, we can't have them on the team... That's the most immature sh*t I've ever seen...
The bottom line is that Cabrera is an amazing hitter and a decent fielder. Like Manny Ramirez. Zimmeran and Wright are solid, but they aren't anywhere near Cabrera offensively, but they are a little bit better defensively. They aren't THAT much better defensively where it would justify starting them over Cabrera.
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Post by diehardmetsfan on Apr 14, 2007 15:11:25 GMT -5
Who gives a sh*t about the All-Star game? That game is a joke. Oh no, Miguel Cabrera missed ONE grounder... Oh no, Carlos Beltran missed ONE fly ball... They suck now, we can't have them on the team... That's the most immature sh*t I've ever seen... The bottom line is that Cabrera is an amazing hitter and a decent fielder. Like Manny Ramirez. Zimmeran and Wright are solid, but they aren't anywhere near Cabrera offensively, but they are a little bit better defensively. They aren't THAT much better defensively where it would justify starting them over Cabrera. 1) david wright in '06= .311, 26 homers, 116 rbi, 96 runs scored and a .395 obp miguel cabrera= .339, 26 homers, 114 rbi, 112 runs scored and a .430 obp cabrera is better, but deffinatly do not say wright isnt anywhere near, cause thats rediculous 2) i didnt say wright should start, i DEFFINATLY think he should be on the team |
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Apr 14, 2007 17:52:43 GMT -5
I said Cabrera doesn't go after fly balls in general. I know it was a line drive in ASG and he should have been able to stop it. fly balls, dude, do you know how in closed the stands are to the 3rd base side at dolphin stadium?. |
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 14, 2007 18:16:00 GMT -5
He does it at other parks.
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Apr 14, 2007 18:25:12 GMT -5
He does it at other parks. Foul territory? other then that its the LF'ers job. |
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 14, 2007 20:21:16 GMT -5
He's still a below-average, lazy defensive player. You cannot deny that. As soon as he's out of Florida no question he'll go to the AL where a man with no position can still play everyday.
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Post by Fish Troll on Apr 15, 2007 15:16:05 GMT -5
He's still a below-average, lazy defensive player. You cannot deny that. As soon as he's out of Florida no question he'll go to the AL where a man with no position can still play everyday. omg bullshit. He may have below avg range but he doesn't make much errors since about a year now and does have a strong arm to throw to 1st base. You are talking to Marlins fans, we know our players! |
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Apr 19, 2007 18:27:56 GMT -5
and he has a ring
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 19, 2007 18:31:31 GMT -5
That means nothing. Ted Williams is the greatest hitter ever and he never had one. I could list a bunch of great players who have never won a World Series. It means nothing. Using those kinds of arguments shows how desperate and weak your position is. |
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Post by Star Man on Apr 19, 2007 18:49:14 GMT -5
He's still a below-average, lazy defensive player. You cannot deny that. [...] May I ask how many times you have seen him play in person? |
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 19, 2007 19:14:55 GMT -5
Enough to know how he is with the glove.
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Apr 19, 2007 19:18:55 GMT -5
That means nothing. Ted Williams is the greatest hitter ever and he never had one. I could list a bunch of great players who have never won a World Series. It means nothing. Using those kinds of arguments shows how desperate and weak your position is. wow you kinda went out on a limb there, that shows you took it personal on the inside please kill yourself it will just end your misery of a weak cheapshot pathetic piece of s*** you are |
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 19, 2007 19:30:18 GMT -5
That means nothing. Ted Williams is the greatest hitter ever and he never had one. I could list a bunch of great players who have never won a World Series. It means nothing. Using those kinds of arguments shows how desperate and weak your position is. wow you kinda went out on a limb there, that shows you took it personal on the inside please kill yourself it will just end your misery of a weak cheapshot pathetic piece of s*** you are Yeah, I'm the one who took it personal. That's why I told you to kill yourself because you're a pathetic piece of crap  |
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