Post by Star Man on Apr 15, 2007 20:38:55 GMT -5
ussmariner.com/2007/04/12/mlb-trade-value-for-2007/
Dave Cameron, at USS Mariner, put together a MLB trade value list in an open ripoff of the NBA list done by Bill Simmons at ESPN.
The rules:
Guys who just missed the cut: Francisco Liriano, Justin Morneau, Matt Holliday, Adam Loewen, and Scott Olsen.
His notes and comments are found here: ussmariner.com/2007/04/12/mlb-trade-value-for-2007/
My initial take is that Hamels is too low, and Kazmir too high.
Dave Cameron, at USS Mariner, put together a MLB trade value list in an open ripoff of the NBA list done by Bill Simmons at ESPN.
The rules:
A. Salaries matter. Would you rather pay David Wright $55 million for the next six years or Lance Berkman $85 million over the same period?
B. Age matters. Would you rather have Roy Halladay for the next five seasons or Scott Kazmir for the next 12?
C. Pretend the league passed the following rule: For 24 hours, any player can be traded straight up for any other player without budget ramifications. So if Team A tells Team B, “We’ll trade you Player X for Player Y straight up,” would Team B make the deal or not?
D. Concentrate on degrees. For instance, neither the Mariners nor Cardinals would pull the trigger on an Pujols-Hernandez trade. But at the very least, the Cardinals say, “Wow, Felix Hernandez is available?” while the Mariners would say, “There’s no way we’re trading Felix, but Albert Pujols…” That counts in the big scheme of things.
E. Make the list in reverse order (Nos. 40 to 1). So if Ryan Howard comes in at No. 14, players 1 through 13 are all players about whom Philadelphia would probably say, “We hate giving up Howard, but there’s no way we can pass up that deal.” And they wouldn’t trade him for any player listed between Nos. 15 and 40.
B. Age matters. Would you rather have Roy Halladay for the next five seasons or Scott Kazmir for the next 12?
C. Pretend the league passed the following rule: For 24 hours, any player can be traded straight up for any other player without budget ramifications. So if Team A tells Team B, “We’ll trade you Player X for Player Y straight up,” would Team B make the deal or not?
D. Concentrate on degrees. For instance, neither the Mariners nor Cardinals would pull the trigger on an Pujols-Hernandez trade. But at the very least, the Cardinals say, “Wow, Felix Hernandez is available?” while the Mariners would say, “There’s no way we’re trading Felix, but Albert Pujols…” That counts in the big scheme of things.
E. Make the list in reverse order (Nos. 40 to 1). So if Ryan Howard comes in at No. 14, players 1 through 13 are all players about whom Philadelphia would probably say, “We hate giving up Howard, but there’s no way we can pass up that deal.” And they wouldn’t trade him for any player listed between Nos. 15 and 40.
Rank Name Position Team
1 Felix Hernandez RHP Seattle
2 Albert Pujols 1B St. Louis
3 Miguel Cabrera 3B Florida
4 Jose Reyes SS New York Mets
5 Joe Mauer C Minnesota Twins
6 Grady Sizemore CF Cleveland
7 Johan Santana LHP Minnesota
8 Brian McCann C Atlanta
9 Delmon Young RF Tampa Bay
10 David Wright 3B New York Mets
11 Scott Kazmir LHP Tampa Bay
12 Chase Utley 2B Philadelphia
13 Brandon Webb RHP Arizona
14 Ryan Howard 1B Philadelphia
15 Ben Sheets RHP Milwaukee
16 Jeremy Bonderman RHP Detroit
17 Travis Hafner DH Cleveland
18 Alex Gordon 3B Kansas City
19 John Lackey RHP Anaheim
20 Daisuke Matsuzaka RHP Boston
21 Howie Kendrick 2B Anaheim
22 Carl Crawford LF Tampa Bay
23 Philip Hughes RHP New York Yankees
24 Hanley Ramirez SS Florida
25 Roy Halladay RHP Toronto
26 Matt Cain RHP San Francisco
27 Nick Markakis RF Baltimore
28 Brett Myers RHP Philadelphia
29 Ryan Zimmerman 3B Washington
30 Justin Verlander RHP Detroit
31 Prince Fielder 1B Milwaukee
32 Jake Peavy RHP San Diego
33 Rickie Weeks 2B Milwaukee
34 Jeff Francoeur RF Atlanta
35 Cole Hamels LHP Philadelphia
36 Robinson Cano 2B New York Yankees
37 Jason Bay LF Pittsburgh
38 Lance Berkman 1B Houston
39 Erik Bedard LHP Baltimore
40 Dan Haren RHP Oakland
1 Felix Hernandez RHP Seattle
2 Albert Pujols 1B St. Louis
3 Miguel Cabrera 3B Florida
4 Jose Reyes SS New York Mets
5 Joe Mauer C Minnesota Twins
6 Grady Sizemore CF Cleveland
7 Johan Santana LHP Minnesota
8 Brian McCann C Atlanta
9 Delmon Young RF Tampa Bay
10 David Wright 3B New York Mets
11 Scott Kazmir LHP Tampa Bay
12 Chase Utley 2B Philadelphia
13 Brandon Webb RHP Arizona
14 Ryan Howard 1B Philadelphia
15 Ben Sheets RHP Milwaukee
16 Jeremy Bonderman RHP Detroit
17 Travis Hafner DH Cleveland
18 Alex Gordon 3B Kansas City
19 John Lackey RHP Anaheim
20 Daisuke Matsuzaka RHP Boston
21 Howie Kendrick 2B Anaheim
22 Carl Crawford LF Tampa Bay
23 Philip Hughes RHP New York Yankees
24 Hanley Ramirez SS Florida
25 Roy Halladay RHP Toronto
26 Matt Cain RHP San Francisco
27 Nick Markakis RF Baltimore
28 Brett Myers RHP Philadelphia
29 Ryan Zimmerman 3B Washington
30 Justin Verlander RHP Detroit
31 Prince Fielder 1B Milwaukee
32 Jake Peavy RHP San Diego
33 Rickie Weeks 2B Milwaukee
34 Jeff Francoeur RF Atlanta
35 Cole Hamels LHP Philadelphia
36 Robinson Cano 2B New York Yankees
37 Jason Bay LF Pittsburgh
38 Lance Berkman 1B Houston
39 Erik Bedard LHP Baltimore
40 Dan Haren RHP Oakland
Guys who just missed the cut: Francisco Liriano, Justin Morneau, Matt Holliday, Adam Loewen, and Scott Olsen.
His notes and comments are found here: ussmariner.com/2007/04/12/mlb-trade-value-for-2007/
My initial take is that Hamels is too low, and Kazmir too high.
