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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Apr 5, 2008 21:14:31 GMT -5
Corey Patterson has a shitload of talent. He just doesn't take enough walks to be useful. He was the 3rd overall pick at one point, dude could do 30/30 if he knew the difference between ball and strike.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 5, 2008 22:36:23 GMT -5
seaver, all of the things you're saying are your opinion. The Cubs will literally blame ANYONE when they lose. Trust me, I read the Chicago Tribune, I listen to the talk sports radio in Chicago. Thats what 100 of losing will do
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 5, 2008 23:42:39 GMT -5
"Corey Patterson has a shitload of talent. He just doesn't take enough walks to be useful. He was the 3rd overall pick at one point, dude could do 30/30 if he knew the difference between ball and strike."
But he doesn't which is why he's not worth having on a 25-man roster. Where he drafted is irrelevant. Mike Piazza went in the 62nd round and Steve Chilcott was drafted ahead of Reggie Jackson.
"seaver, all of the things you're saying are your opinion. The Cubs will literally blame ANYONE when they lose. Trust me, I read the Chicago Tribune, I listen to the talk sports radio in Chicago. Thats what 100 of losing will do"
It's not an opinion that Dusty wants guys swinging. It's not an opinion that he says stupid stuff like "walks clog bases". Sorry, but he's a bad manager. You'll see soon enough.
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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Apr 6, 2008 1:07:33 GMT -5
Actually it IS relevant. You said he doesn't have anywhere close to the talent Bruce does, but he DOES in fact have that kind of talent and his draft status proves that. The fact that the Reds are playing him is not the problem, the problem is him leading off.
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 6, 2008 11:16:05 GMT -5
Actually it IS relevant. You said he doesn't have anywhere close to the talent Bruce does, but he DOES in fact have that kind of talent and his draft status proves that. The fact that the Reds are playing him is not the problem, the problem is him leading off. He was drafted 10 YEARS AGO! Whatever talent he had then has diminished. He's had one good year his whole career which was in 2004. Using his draft ranking is stupid. I'm sorry, you're usually a smart guy but using that is just dumb. Especially when it was 10 years ago.
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Post by Marlins on Apr 6, 2008 19:37:37 GMT -5
This whole thread is like totally off topic but whatever.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 6, 2008 20:11:51 GMT -5
Eidson Volquez, AKA Cueto with a different arm, pitched today, going 5.1 innings and giving up a run with 8 strikeouts.
And BTW Seaver, you can't continue using your opinions and acting like they're facts. Dusty was my first or second choice, but I still like him. We could have better, but he's the best manager in Cincinnati in a long time. Until he proves otherwise, that will be my opinion
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 7, 2008 14:02:00 GMT -5
Eidson Volquez, AKA Cueto with a different arm, pitched today, going 5.1 innings and giving up a run with 8 strikeouts. And BTW Seaver, you can't continue using your opinions and acting like they're facts. Dusty was my first or second choice, but I still like him. We could have better, but he's the best manager in Cincinnati in a long time. Until he proves otherwise, that will be my opinion It's a fact that Baker overworks young pitchers, hate walks, and wants his guys swinging more. He IS a bad manager. You'll want him gone soon enough.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 7, 2008 17:42:12 GMT -5
I'd rather have him than Randolph
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 7, 2008 18:09:11 GMT -5
I'd rather have Randolph because he doesn't believe walks clog up bases or overwork pitchers. If you're content with having an idiot manager screw up your team, that's your own business. Good luck with that though.
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 7, 2008 19:39:17 GMT -5
you're the one that brought it up
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 7, 2008 20:26:09 GMT -5
Yeah I did but what does that have to do with anything?
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Post by Fuck Mike Brown on Apr 7, 2008 20:27:25 GMT -5
whatever, lets just end this pointless argument. We both have our opinions
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