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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 20, 2007 18:18:59 GMT -5
Record: 3-1
ERA: 2.08
WHIP: 1.08
IP: 26
K/BB: 14/6
OPPAVG: .217
OppOBP: .287
OppSLG: .283
Whose numbers are those, you ask?
That's right, Braden Looper. And for all the people that will say, "He's a reliever, he won't handle a full season." Save it. We just need him to pitch until Mulder comes back.
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 20, 2007 19:21:03 GMT -5
Wow, he's dominant in 4 starts  Let's see his numbers in the long haul against good teams. That's what matters most. April wins against the Pirates, Brewers, and Cubs isn't that impressive. |
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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 20, 2007 19:55:02 GMT -5
It doesn't matter. He's a #5 starter. Just keeping us in the game is enough. But he is pitching very well. Considering how much he was bashed when people found out he would be a starter, I thought it deserved to be pointed out. He'll only have like 7 or 8 more starts. Even if he loses all of the games he has left (he won't), it's better than people expected.
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 20, 2007 20:02:55 GMT -5
Obviously he's pitching well, the teams he's won against suck. Atleast wait until April is over before you start the smack talk.
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Apr 20, 2007 20:07:04 GMT -5
2003 world series, Top 11th of Game 4, god.....
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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 20, 2007 20:28:26 GMT -5
Brewers and Cubs both have pretty good offenses. Especially the Cubs. The Pirates were hot when he pitched against him.
I'm not just basing this on numbers. Unlike you, I've seen every single pitch he has thrown this season. He is a completely different pitcher. Not only different from when he was on the Marlins or the Mets, but even different from last year.
He's always had the body of a starter. He has enough pitches to be a starter. He's stopped the "blow it by them to try to get the strikeout" mentality. He now just tries for groundballs, which is what he is getting.
As for waiting until April is over... why? Do these games not count? It doesn't matter who he is playing against. Is it only supposed to count if he is pitching against the Mets?
Going into the season, the biggest question mark for the Cardinals was the rotation behind Carpenter. But even when Carpenter is out, the other starters are still doing well. It's the offense that's killing us. Looper has definitely been a highlight though.
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 20, 2007 20:34:23 GMT -5
As for waiting until April is over... why? Do these games not count? It doesn't matter who he is playing against. Is it only supposed to count if he is pitching against the Mets? April stats are misleading. Jimmy Rollins is leading the NL in Home runs but you don't see people saying he's going to hit 50 this season. |
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Post by Josh on Apr 20, 2007 20:39:50 GMT -5
As for waiting until April is over... why? Do these games not count? It doesn't matter who he is playing against. Is it only supposed to count if he is pitching against the Mets? April stats are misleading. Jimmy Rollins is leading the NL in Home runs but you don't see people saying he's going to hit 50 this season. According to the genius John Kruk, he should be the Phillies cleanup hitter |
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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 20, 2007 20:41:20 GMT -5
I'm not saying Braden is going to win the Cy Young. I'm just pointing out that he got a lot of crap on this board when I said that Loop was becoming a starter. People talked about how he would get rocked. Just saying he has started off well.
I will point out again, we only need him to last until the ASB.
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Post by Fish Troll on Apr 21, 2007 15:58:07 GMT -5
I'm not saying Braden is going to win the Cy Young. I'm just pointing out that he got a lot of crap on this board when I said that Loop was becoming a starter. People talked about how he would get rocked. Just saying he has started off well. I will point out again, we only need him to last until the ASB. WTF, I have been cheering and hoping that he'll do good since I first heard the news. |
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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 22, 2007 8:37:42 GMT -5
I wasn't necessarily directing this at you MarlinsTroll, just anyone that shot him down.
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Post by Marlins on Apr 22, 2007 17:44:56 GMT -5
Only 1 of those 4 starts was vs. a good team...and he gave up 3 ER in 6 innings...not so great.
And as it was said before, just 4 starts means nothing. Had he completely dominated then maybe it would mean something. But just merely pitching "well" doesn't make me jealous at all.
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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Apr 22, 2007 17:57:59 GMT -5
Depends your definition of a "good" team.
He's getting major league hitters out. They're all good in my book.
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Post by seaver41 on Apr 22, 2007 23:00:52 GMT -5
Depends your definition of a "good" team. Teams not in the NL Central. |
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Post by cardsfan643 on Apr 23, 2007 0:16:41 GMT -5
Who represented the NL in the World Series the last three years?
Oh yeah... NL Central teams.
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