Post by Fish Troll on Nov 30, 2007 14:34:02 GMT -5
Miguel being Miguel not the right match for the Marlins
November 29, 2007
Sean Deveney
Last spring, Marlins pitcher Dontrelle Willis described third baseman Miguel Cabrera as "our Manny Ramirez." He meant that as a compliment, of course -- Ramirez, like Cabrera a righthanded hitter, is among the best sluggers in the game, the cleanup cornerstone of two World Series champions. Cabrera is only 24 but already has earned four trips to the All-Star Game. Through his first four full seasons, Cabrera compares closely with Ramirez, who through the same period averaged 33.8 home runs and 113.0 RBIs. For Cabrera: 31.5 homers and 115.3 RBIs.
Says one National League scout of Cabrera: "He is one of the most pure hitters available and a difference-maker. He is like Tony Perez, with his ability to use the whole field. He has one of the best righthanded swings I have ever seen."
Sounds like someone a young team like Florida would love to build around. But when the baseball world descends on Nashville for the annual winter meetings next week, no name will be more prominent than Cabrera's, especially among a trio of power-starved West Coast teams -- the Dodgers, Angels and Giants. Despite his bat, the Marlins have placed Cabrera atop the league's trading block.
The problem for the Marlins is that the Cabrera-Ramirez comparison is apt beyond the numbers. The production is undeniable, but so are the peripheral issues. Teammates and Marlins officials have long grumbled about Cabrera's reputation for late nights, and the generous expansion of his waistline makes him bettersuited for firstbase, the scout says. Team officials publicly criticized Cabrera for missing a fan meet-and-greet last winter, though Cabrera said he was in Venezuela with his father, who was ill. And there's the matter of salary. Cabrera is expected to top $10 million in arbitration this year and could reach $15 million in 2009.
The Red Sox willingly tolerate Ramirez's fluctuations because as he has matured, he has become increasingly serious about his work, keeping his body in shape and ramping up his study of opposing pitchers. The Marlins might be willing to keep Cabrera if they knew for sure he would soon reach a similar balance -- lose weight, become a better third baseman, get a little more sleep and show up for team functions. Cabrera very well could do those things. As he gets older, he almost certainly will. But the Marlins can't be sure, and for a team expecting a payroll in the $30 million range, Florida can't afford uncertainty.
Thus, team president Larry Beinfest discussed Cabrera with 10 teams at the general managers meetings, saying, "We have good players, and good players are always in need. I'm not talking about Cabrera specifically, or Willis or Dan Uggla. But when you trade good players, you want really good players in return."
The list of Cabrera suitors shrank after Boston re-signed third baseman Mike Lowell and the Yankees agreed on the framework of a deal with Alex Rodriguez. Cabrera is the most attractive offensive player available, and early reports indicated the Marlins' asking price (three or even four top young players) was exorbitantly high. One general manager, though, says, "That might have been a starting point, but that's unrealistic. Whoever gets him is probably going to give up two top prospects, and maybe one or two more marginal guys."
It's always risky to give up young players. The questions around Cabrera only make it more risky.
November 29, 2007
Sean Deveney
Last spring, Marlins pitcher Dontrelle Willis described third baseman Miguel Cabrera as "our Manny Ramirez." He meant that as a compliment, of course -- Ramirez, like Cabrera a righthanded hitter, is among the best sluggers in the game, the cleanup cornerstone of two World Series champions. Cabrera is only 24 but already has earned four trips to the All-Star Game. Through his first four full seasons, Cabrera compares closely with Ramirez, who through the same period averaged 33.8 home runs and 113.0 RBIs. For Cabrera: 31.5 homers and 115.3 RBIs.
Says one National League scout of Cabrera: "He is one of the most pure hitters available and a difference-maker. He is like Tony Perez, with his ability to use the whole field. He has one of the best righthanded swings I have ever seen."
Sounds like someone a young team like Florida would love to build around. But when the baseball world descends on Nashville for the annual winter meetings next week, no name will be more prominent than Cabrera's, especially among a trio of power-starved West Coast teams -- the Dodgers, Angels and Giants. Despite his bat, the Marlins have placed Cabrera atop the league's trading block.
The problem for the Marlins is that the Cabrera-Ramirez comparison is apt beyond the numbers. The production is undeniable, but so are the peripheral issues. Teammates and Marlins officials have long grumbled about Cabrera's reputation for late nights, and the generous expansion of his waistline makes him bettersuited for firstbase, the scout says. Team officials publicly criticized Cabrera for missing a fan meet-and-greet last winter, though Cabrera said he was in Venezuela with his father, who was ill. And there's the matter of salary. Cabrera is expected to top $10 million in arbitration this year and could reach $15 million in 2009.
The Red Sox willingly tolerate Ramirez's fluctuations because as he has matured, he has become increasingly serious about his work, keeping his body in shape and ramping up his study of opposing pitchers. The Marlins might be willing to keep Cabrera if they knew for sure he would soon reach a similar balance -- lose weight, become a better third baseman, get a little more sleep and show up for team functions. Cabrera very well could do those things. As he gets older, he almost certainly will. But the Marlins can't be sure, and for a team expecting a payroll in the $30 million range, Florida can't afford uncertainty.
Thus, team president Larry Beinfest discussed Cabrera with 10 teams at the general managers meetings, saying, "We have good players, and good players are always in need. I'm not talking about Cabrera specifically, or Willis or Dan Uggla. But when you trade good players, you want really good players in return."
The list of Cabrera suitors shrank after Boston re-signed third baseman Mike Lowell and the Yankees agreed on the framework of a deal with Alex Rodriguez. Cabrera is the most attractive offensive player available, and early reports indicated the Marlins' asking price (three or even four top young players) was exorbitantly high. One general manager, though, says, "That might have been a starting point, but that's unrealistic. Whoever gets him is probably going to give up two top prospects, and maybe one or two more marginal guys."
It's always risky to give up young players. The questions around Cabrera only make it more risky.
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Gotta love how they bash their own player that is in their trading block and then demanding to get "really good players" in return for "good players". Well there goes one of our top bidders (Angels).
