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Post by seaver41 on Dec 11, 2008 0:13:39 GMT -5
Mets get: RP J.J. Putz (SEA), RP Sean Green (SEA), and OF Jeremy Reed (SEA)
Indians get: IF Luiz Valbuena (SEA) and RP Joe Smith (NYM)
Mariners get: SP/RP Aaron Heilman (NYM), Endy Chavez (NYM), Mike Carp (NYM), P Maikel Cleto (NYM), OF Ezequiel Carrera (NYM), SP Jason Vargas (NYM), and OF Franklin Gutierrez (CLE).
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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Dec 11, 2008 0:22:54 GMT -5
Good deal for the Indians. Valbuena is going to be a hell of a player. He's a plus defender and can handle the bat well.
Decent deal for the other two teams. Putting together a bullpen should be much easier than being shown.
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Post by seaver41 on Dec 11, 2008 0:28:08 GMT -5
Other than Carp, the 3 minor leaguers the Mets gave up were nothing great. Heilman had no use in NY anymore. Green replaces Smtih as a ROOGY. Green sucked in the 2nd half b/c he pitched 56 innings in the first half which is insane.
Endy will be missed but he's replaceable.
"Putting together a bullpen should be much easier than being shown."
Putting together a bullpen you can project to be good is far more challenging.
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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Dec 11, 2008 0:42:10 GMT -5
Maybe. But I've seen Dayton Moore put together a GREAT bullpen the past two years on pennies to the dollar. Maybe I'm on my high horse here because he has done that.
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Post by seaver41 on Dec 11, 2008 0:45:15 GMT -5
Does that great bullpen include Jimmy Gobble?
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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Dec 11, 2008 1:03:27 GMT -5
It did in 2007. Hillman didn't use him in his LOOGY role this year, and he is awful against right handers. Then he was on the DL most of the season (I think).
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Post by seaver41 on Dec 11, 2008 1:14:19 GMT -5
I was kidding.
Moore has the luxury of waiting for young guys to develop. Minaya has to acquire accomplished guys. He built a cheap pen in 2006, but no one repeated.
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Post by Zack Attack Troll on Dec 11, 2008 1:15:37 GMT -5
Wow. I completely whiffed on the sarcasm then.  |
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Post by Fish Troll on Dec 11, 2008 1:25:19 GMT -5
Bullpen is the most unpredictable part of the team. Relieves can be good 1 year and bad the next.
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Post by Ziggy/Franzen Troll on Dec 11, 2008 17:21:28 GMT -5
Bullpen is the most unpredictable part of the team. Relieves can be good 1 year and bad the next. yea not everyone is as lucky as the phillies |
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Post by Josh on Dec 18, 2008 15:51:19 GMT -5
Signing Putz and K-Rod are two big steps towards repairing the mets only real glaring weakness, the bullpen. Now they have to do the hard part, actually play lol.
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